it comes down to who's got the energy behind him. >> does mitt romney need to hit it out of the park? is this going to be one of the seminole moments in the campaign? >> i think there are a lot of moments. i think it's cumulative. i think people more and more believe that president obama has the right message. and clearly he's got a lot of energy in terms of his volunteer base tout there. >> carol simpson was on here yesterday and fascinating. she moderated the debate between bush, clinton, perot. here's her analysis of what's important. >> i'm going to upset some people now, but debates are more about style than substance. the advantage of being a moderator is that people told me what they thought about the debate after the debate. and the things they told me were things like why did george bush look at his watch? where did he have to go? why was he anxious to get out of there? and people tell me now that they want to see how they do. they don't want to hear. i think they've heard a lot about the economy. and they're not interested in the minutia. >> governor, let me get your take on